BUT THE BIRDS ARE A GOOD EXAMPLE, ARE THEY ACTUALLY ALLOWED TO EAT WORMS AND LARVAE AND THINGS LIKE THAT OR IS THAT POLITICALLY INCORRECT, WHAT DO YOU THINK? WE WANT TO MAKE PROGRESS, HOW CAN WE STOP THE UNSPEAKABLE ANIMAL SUFFERING IN INDUSTRY, IN FOOD PRODUCTION WITHOUT FALLING INTO EMBARRASSING RELIGIOUSNESS, I MEAN IF EVERYTHING IS ONE THEN IT DOESN'T MATTER, I CAN MAKE MY NEIGHBORS BREAKFAST AND THAT BECOMES A METAPHYSICAL ACT. 

ARE THE BROWNIES WORKING YET? IT USUALLY TAKES LONGER, DOESN'T IT? 

NO, I'M LIKE THAT. IN AUSTRIA THEY CALL IT NATURBRETT. 

SO WHAT WENT WRONG, SHOULD THEY HAVE LET NIXON IN OFFICE? 

Now I make him laugh,

... BASICALLY YES, BECAUSE THIS BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN PROGRESSIVE AND REACTIONARY HAS COST US MANY, MANY YEARS, AND IN THE HERE AND NOW DENVER HAS JUST ALLOWED MUSHROOMS, BUT THE DETOUR AND THIS DIFFERENTIATION OF INDIVIDUAL LIFESTYLES HAS BY NO MEANS BEEN COMPLETED. YES, COLORADO IS ON THE SIDE OF THE MEDAL, BUT THEY HAVE JUST IMPLEMENTED DRAWN TIGHTENING OF THE ABORTION LAWS.

STEEL FINGERS INSTEAD OF LITTLE FINGER, IS IT NOT ACTUALLY THE CASE THAT SOMEONE WHO BELIEVES IN CONSCIOUSNESS, IN LIFE, NOT EATING MEAT, IN EXISTENTIAL THINGS, OR CONVERSELY EVEN AS AN ECO OR VEGAN WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO HAVE AN ABORTION? DON'T IDEOLOGIES GET ENTANGLED INTO A THOUSAND CONTRADICTIONS, EVEN AMONG THE SO-CALLED GOOD ONES? 

THAT'S WHY WE MAKE ART AND LET SCIENCE EXPLORE REALITY MORE CLOSER. POLARIZATIONS DO NOT DIVIDE US BUT PRESENT THE DIFFERENCES BETTER THAN THE CONSERVATIVE COMPROMISE LIVING ON ITS KNEES. THE ARGUMENT SHOULD BE LEFT, BUT MY GOODNESS, WE'VE ONLY BEEN OUT OF THE TREES FOR A RECENT TIME.

GIVE HUMANITY ANOTHER 20,000 YEARS. IT WILL BE OK. 

THAT'S TRUE, I AM ENGAGED INTENSIVELY IN THE TOMORROW OF THE TRYING TO CREATE NEW, BELIEVABLE, MORE AUTHENTIC SCIENCE FICTION. THAT BRINGS ME LESS GROUPIES THAN YOU, BUT THERE IS HOPE, WRITER HAS THE ADVANTAGE OF BEING ABLE TO DO IT MORE UNOBSTRUCTIVELY, AND HONESTLY, I CONSIDER MY READINGS AS CONCERTS. I THINK YOU'RE MORE OF A LIVE MAN TOO.

I THINK OUR STUDIO AT YOUR HOME OR WRITING IN YOUR QUIET LITTLE ROOM ARE JUST EXERCISES FOR THE ACT, THE STEEL FINGER GYMNASTICS.

HEY DUDE, DIDN'T YOU ACTUALLY WANT TO ASK ME ABOUT BEAN SPROUTS AND STUFF? 

SORRY, YES, THERE IS GOOD FLUTE MUSIC, NO QUESTION. BUT LOOK AT I MEAN INDIAN GURUS, THEY'VE BEEN TALKING OUT SINCE THE HIPPIES, THE CASTLE COUNTRY HAS NEVER HAD/IS WORTH BEING AN EXAMPLE, HOW IS THAT SUPPOSED TO BE A ROLE MODEL, YOGA, I MEAN, SHOULD WE ALL RETREAT INTO THE CAVES FROM WHICH WE CAME.

THE SMILING GYMNASTICS THAT WE TODAY CALL YOGA IS A DIFFERENT SUBJECT. 

YEAH, MAYBE THE MOST EMBARRASSING PART. BUT THEY ARE SOOOOOO FLEXIBLE, THE GIRLS AT LEAST, THAT ALSO HELPS THEM WITH SELFIES. 

SO ARE SELFIES THE PEAK OF HUMAN DEVELOPMENT?

Jim has been mostly silent since he fell asleep in the bathtub, but now the old shaman looks around and gives a resounding yes.

SELFIES ARE THE KEY, EVERYTHING BECOMES A SELFIE. WE ARE ONLY OUR SELFIES, OUR REPRESENTATION OF WHAT WE NEVER WERE BECAUSE THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS SOLID, STABLE BEING.

SOME BEINGS, CALLED FLATTEROUS, HAVE UNDERSTANDED THAT ONE CAN AND MAY CHANGE OPINIONS LIKE CLOTHES, THE COSMIC GAME, WHICH BRINGS US BACK TO INDIA, BUT PEOPLE EVERYWHERE AND ALWAYS COME TO THIS FACT. 

ONLY THE SO-CALLED WEST IS A LITTLE MENTALLY CRIPPLED. AND BY RAPE-ING THE PLANET AND ALMOST ALL OF ITS PEOPLES, IT HAS OF COURSE HARMED EVERYONE ELSE. ALIENS, IF THEY ARE NOT ALREADY THERE, SHOULD FIRST SEND A THERAPIST.

WHAT DO WE DO WITH THE MOSQUITOES NOW? Eradicate them?

YES, I THINK YOU HAVE TO ACT PRAGMATICALLY AND LIVELY, WEIGHTING INCOMPATIBLE OPINIONS AGAINST DIVERSITY, AUTONOMOUSNESS WITH DAILY REASSESSMENT, SO LEARY'S POLITICS OF ECSTASY ARE WORTH A SIDESTEP, YOU CAN ASK HIM, HE'S SITTING IN THE BOTTOM OF THE CAR.

IS THE CONTRACT, THE LAW, THE RULE, THE COMMANDMENT THUS AN IDEA THAT IS SLOWLY BUT SURELY DISAPPEARING?

WE NOW THINK IN MILLENNIUMS OF YEARS, BUT WHAT IS THE USE OF THAT WHEN WE BEGIN TO UNDERSTAND OURSELVES AS INDIVIDUALS AT THE PEAK OF SCIENCE, TECHNOLOGY AND ART.

IF YOU UNDERSTAND THAT, WHO WOULD RECOGNIZE ANY KIND OF JUSTIFIED AUTHORITY? THAT WOULD BE ABSURD. YOU LIKE TO WORK A LOT WITH A VARIETY OF OTHER LIVING BEINGS WHERE IT SEEMS TO MAKE SENSE AND TO BE VALUABLE. YOU ORDER YOURSELF IN A COMMUNITY THAT IS SELFISH AND HEDONISTIC, BUT PRACTICAL AND FORWARD-LOOKING. THAT'S IT.

YES, WE'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK, DUDE. THE REACTIONARY COUNTER-REACTION, THE WAR ON DRUGS, THE MEDIA WITH ITS ALIGNED BANAL BEHAVE SHEEP'S CONCEPT, THIS IS A FAKE VICTORY FOR THE CONSERVATIVES, THE POPULIST RIGHT-WING PANIC, ALL THE BEADS OF SWEAT ARE SPLASHING SLIGHTLY SMELLING ALL THE WAY TO BREXIT.

BUT IT WILL EITHER NOT HAPPEN AT ALL OR IT WILL BE REVERSED BY THE PEOPLE THEMSELVES IN 5 TO 10 YEARS. MAYBE FASTER IN SCOTLAND.

AS A CONSERVATIVE YOU MUST FEEL CONSTANTLY FUCKED. ACTUALLY NICE. IF YOU COULD ENJOY IT IN YOUR HOMOPHOBIA

 
The group laughs comfortably. 

I MEAN, AS SOON AS YOU LOCK UP ONE CHEEKY BLOGGER, A GAY COUPLE GET MARRIED NEXT DOOR, AND IF YOU THROW OUT ALL THE PROGESSIVES, IF THEY HAVEN'T ALREADY LEFT VOLUNTARILY, WHAT'S LEFT, A SKINNY, DRIED-OUT MORMON PEOPLE WHO YOU'RE STUCK WITH IN THE BACKWOODS.

THEY ARE SO FUCKED UP THAT YOU HAVE TO STOP UNDERSTANDING THEIR SAD PANIC. TRUMP, WELL, THERE IS NO BETTER EXAMPLE. BUT THEY DESPISED WERE CRAWLING IN FRONT OF HIM ON TRAILS OF SLIME. HOW BETTER COULD YOU DESCRIBE A LOW SINKING POINT, DUDE, I'M TELLIN' YOU, NO ART CAN DO THAT.

YES, I KNOW THAT FROM AUSTRIA. WE HAD A CHANCELLOR, A 34-YEAR-OLD COLLEGE DROPOUT WITH NO SUBSTANCE, AND HE HAD THEM ALL ON A LEASH, EMBARRASSMENTS, DULL, UNCLEAR ANNOUNCEMENT POLICY WITH NO SUBSTANCE, WILD FIGHTING AROUND, TOTALLY SENSELESS, AND THE OLD FARMERS WHO CONSIDERED THEMSELVES WISE OR SMART WERE DOING A HORSE, RETRIEVING, IT WAS VERY FUNNY WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT FROM THAT POINT OF VIEW. HOHLS STÖCKCHEN OTTMAR, HOHLS STÖCKCHEN WILFRIED.

A JOKE CHARACTER TALKS, AND A PARTY THAT WAS CAPABLE OF THINKING BECAME A SLOGAN SECT. ALL JUST OUT OF FEAR. AND YET WITH NO CHANCE OF STOPPING THE FLOWERING OF HUMANITY

HEHE, YES THEY ARE JOKES, FROM BRAZIL TO HUNGARY, I THINK IT HAS TO BE SHOWED PUBLICLY, THE SPIN, MAYBE A GREEN ONE, WILL COME HARD ON THEM FOR IT, THEY'RE GOING TO DIE OUT ANYWAY, THEY KNOW THAT. YOU SEE THE DEMOGRAPHIC SURVEYS AND IMMORTALITY IS NOT A POSSIBLE FOR THEM RIGHT NOW. 

THE BREAD AND GAMES TIME IS ALMOST OVER BECAUSE WE CAN NOW MAKE BREAD AND GAMES OURSELVES, ANYTIME AND WITHOUT ANY REQUIREMENTS, ANYWHERE. THE WORLD IS BECOMING A 5D PRINTER.

SO, NOTHING HAS gon' WRONG, TO GET BACK TO THE INITIAL QUESTION?

YES AND NO, I MEAN THE BEST JOKE OF ALL IS THAT THE AMERICAN MILITARY INVENTED THE INTERNET. YOU CAN'T OPEN PANDORA'S BOX WITH IMPUNITY, NOW THEY WANT TO PUT EVERYONE WHO ESCAPED BACK INTO THE BOX. NO WAY. 

We sat together for a while longer, sometimes I think we never left each other. The rest of the interview, a ride in a Cadillac, politically incorrect partying on the Reeperbahn. All of that soon and in membership content. Winter is just around the corner, I really have to spend it like summer, and I'm old and need the money.